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Re: National Forum - Swamis, Celibacy and Sex Scandals


All this is rubbish and a high level conspiracy against hindu society and religion. No muslim leader or Father's of Church are being alleged for this type of scandals. This is all to difame the greatness of hindu religion. Ya ofcourse some religious leaders might be doing this but why only religious leader belonging to hindu community are being targeted. We hindus are generally of moderate thinking and accept these with a different approach but if same thing is being asked from a intellectual belonging to muslim or christian community they will definately deny or try to protect their leaders.


Plz do not spread all this nonsense and try to bring the good things being told by these religious leaders. Also plz do not attack hindu religion only.


Anshuman Bhattacharjee


On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 4:58 PM, RAKTIM MUKHOPADHYAY <raktim2000@gmail.com> wrote:
 

From the interactions so far it could be derived that Double Standard Attitude is regarded as a virtue to some of us. Good. They will be good Godmen or Politicians. To them cheating naive common people by posing as God's direct Representative is also a great virtue. To establish their ill desire and double standard character they can go deeper and deeper. How easy is be fooling the people of our country who are simple and ignorant. My Respectful Pranam in advance to such efficient people who can pose something as a great dramatis and do something else.

Raktim Mukhopadhyay
Human Development Advisor/Consultant
West Bengal, Kolkata.



On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 2:09 PM, neh indwar <nehindwar@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

 
Hi Manojji,
 
 
What I got from your writing that you be a sant, display your mind and wit and win the people confidence. Then you use your good name for gathering money, comfort and their religious believe and get whatever you want from those gullible people. You keep two set of personality. One personality as Sant or Sadhu or Maharishi whatever you want for making people fool and enjoy their confidence,  respect and the other an individual who has so many VIKARAS or a person who could lose some manner at certain point of time for SANSARIK enjoyement. Only you have to keep secret of your second personality. You enjoy everything whatever other SAANSARIK people are enjoying. But for maintaining your reputation as a Sadhu or Mahasadhu you just speak about the voidness of those things like money, sex, love etc. but you enjoy it in your private room.
 
Aare bhai if you speak against it then why you are enjoying it. If you enjoy it then you accept it in toto and dont speak against it. Even you marry the girl like Swamy Param Hansa or other Sadhu or Guru who acted as Sadhu or Swamy by after getting marriage also. Mr Manojji you have given many example for convincing other people. However, you should be convinced yourself first, why these kind of Sandu or Sadhvi should be roamed in the name of religion or make people fool. Either they declare that they are not above of money and sex and act as Sadhu or stop to make fool in the name Sadhu Dharma. Not only Nityanand but it applies with all the religious men acting in any religion. 

 
 
 
Yours Neh Indwar
 
 

--- On Sat, 3/27/10, Manoj Padhi <manojpadhi@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Manoj Padhi <manojpadhi@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: National Forum - Swamis, Celibacy and Sex Scandals
To: national-forum-of-india@yahoogroups.co.in
Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 10:35 PM


 
I don't know, how many  Hindus know about the five Vikaras (impediments) known as Kama, Krodha, Lobha, Moha and Ahankara.

Can any one of you claim that - you have control over them ?

Now let us take the case of Swami Nityananda:

Please ask his Shishyas/followers/ disciples - How is his teachings and mastery over his domain - Sanatana Dharma ? Whether they were  benefited from his spiritual teachings ?

Now, some of you have issues with his videos with a Tamil actress.. Now for a moment close your eyes and think that some one else is shooting a video in your bedroom during intimate hours . Most of the videos will come out more indecent;also this was a clear case of invasion of privacy- how would you feel ?.
 
 
Is there any difference between Hindu Dharma (Sanskrit) and Hindu religion (English) ?

The Sanskrit word Dharma  (http://webapps. uni-koeln. de/cgi-bin/ tamil/recherche) has no one word English equivalence and yet we are addicted to  the English usage.

I am assuming that the videos were not doctored at this moment, which most of you also belive.

Similarly, if you have watched the videos, Did you notice only the Sex part or you also had seen the mutual expression of love and
Ranjitha's service mentality, where she is seen as giving medicines and then massaging Swamiji's legs. The atmosphere of that room seemed so perfect for love between two consenting adults, that would leave many husbands jealous.

Please do a test if possible (I mean no offense to any one)

Next time, please request your wife to massage your feet and see her reaction. I believe, there will be more bad news and some may end up in Hospital.


Many of you designate this as sex or lust and don't see the love and Samarpana by Ranjitha (total surrender). Love between Radha-Krishna, which most Abharamic religion people/schalars won't understand.

Since Swami Nityanada is a Guru, most of you think that his actions in the video were unbecoming of a Guru and  he never had any right to love,desire.

 I have never seen that he claimed himself as a god and a human being can only try to get rid of the  
five Vikaras (impediments) - Kama, Krodha, Lobha, Moha and Ahankara; he may fail in controlling these Vikaras at some point of time. Many already did;there are precedences.

A possibility


Swamiji might have control over these five Vikaras at one point of time but when he saw Ranjitha at first time, could have lost control over the  Vikara 'Kama'. Brahmarshi Viswamitra also had gone through similar situation after seeing Menka and his Shishya's didn't have any issues;they had not abandoned him and went to another Guru. Another possibility by Shri Rajiv Malhotra is he could be experimenting Tantra for further teaching.

Of course, in those days, When Vishwamitra desired Menka, there were no Secular media, Muslims, Christians and Nastik (non-believers) and most important - Secular people. Most of us are so modernized that, we see our ancient Sanatana Dharma as a burden and see a Mutual Love and surrender as a Sex Scandal.

Please  take a look at the dictionary meanings of lust/sex  and  compare it with the ancient Sanskrit meaning of  'Kama'. After seeing Apsara Menka,  Brahmarshi Vishwamitra felt something in his heart for first time in his hermit career - 'Kama' - it was not only the desire for a sex or lust. It was Kama.

Similarly, whenever Kamdeva (god of love) was given the task to ignite love/desire of love for Parvati, in Mahadeva's heart - he was not giving him a Viagra warhead in his Kama-arrow. He was inducing love and desire of love.

Swami Nityananda did lot of Sadhana to study the ancient Hindu religious scriptures (which we don't do). He is a great religious  teacher and has got millions of followers.

Most of you thought or perceived in your mind that he has control over  five Vikaras (impediments) - Kama, Krodha, Lobha, Moha and Ahankara.

And now, when he has lost control over Vikara Kama (if the videos are not doctored) , after several years of teaching, most of you love to demonize him. He becomes fake - are his teachings also fake ? Can you attempt to teach like him and see, how far you can go. He has got a gifted talent to teach and show us a way of better living in proximity with god. Now all the secular media is mocking him as if his 'Kama'  == Viagra kind of sex against the consent of Ranjitha.

And the pity this is - most of us believe this nonsense interpretation of secular media without looking at the above aspects.

Well.. This is my own analysis based on a worst case scenario - if the videos are not doctored. Losing control over Kama  and mutual love is not a crime. Think of Ravana - who kidnapped Sita against her will and draw an analogy.

Here you go..


http://webapps. uni-koeln. de/cgi-bin/ tamil/recherche

Cologne Digital Sanskrit Lexicon: Search Results

1 kamA f. loveliness , beauty , radiance L.
2 kAma &c. see s.v.
3 kAma m. (fr. 2. %{kam} ; once %{kAma4} VS. xx , 60) , wish , desire , longing (%{kAmo@me@bhuJjIta @bhavAn} , my wish is that you should eat Pa1n2. 3-3 , 153) , desire for , longing after (gen. dat. , or loc.) , love , affection , object of desire or of love or of pleasure RV. VS. TS. AV. S3Br. MBh. R. &c. ; pleasure , enjoyment ; love , especially sexual love or sensuality ; Love or Desire personified AV. ix ; xii ; xix (cf. RV. x , 129 , 4) VS. Pa1rGr2. ; N. of the god of love AV. iii. 25 , 1 MBh. Lalit. ; (represented as son of Dharma and husband of Rati [MBh. i , 2596 ff. Hariv. VP.] ; or as a son of Brahma1 VP. ; or sometimes of Sam2kalpa BhP. vi , 6 , 10 ; cf. %{kAma-deva} ) ; N. of Agni SV. ii , 8 , 2 , 19 , 3 AV. TS. Ka1tyS3r. S3a1n3khS3r. ; of Vishn2u Gal. ; of Baladeva (cf. %{kAma-pAla} ) L. ; a stake in gambling Na1r. xvi , 9 ; a species of mango tree (= %{mahA-rAja- cUta}) L. ; N. of a metre consisting of four lines of two long syllables each ; a kind of bean L. ; a particular form of temple Hcat. ; N. of several men ; (%{A}) f. `" wish , desire "' (only instr. %{kAmayA} q.v.) ; N. of a daughter of Pr2ithus3ravas and wife of Ayuta-na1yin MBh. i , 3774 ; (%{am}) n. object of desire L. ; semen virile L. ; N. of a Ti1rtha MBh. iii , 5047 ; (%{am}) ind. see s.v. ; (%{ena}) ind. out of affection or love for ; (%{Aya} , or %{e}) ind. according to desire , agreeably to the wishes of , out of love for (gen. or dat.) RV. AV. TS. S3Br. ChUp. ; (%{At}) ind. for one's own pleasure , of one's own free will , of one's own accord , willingly , intentionally Mn. R. ; (%{kAma4}) mfn. wishing , desiring RV. ix , 113 , 11 ; (ifc.) desirous of , desiring , having a desire or intention (cf. %{go-k-} , %{dharma-k-} ; frequently with inf. in %{tu} cf. %{tyaktu-k-} .)

 
English:
http://dictionary. reference. com/browse/ lust

lust

  lust pronunciation /lʌst/ Show Spelled[luhst] Show IPA
–noun
1.
intense sexual desire or appetite.
2.
uncontrolled or illicit sexual desire or appetite; lecherousness.
3.
a passionate or overmastering desire or craving (usually fol. by for): a lust for power.
4.
ardent enthusiasm; zest; relish: an enviable lust for life.
5.
Obsolete.
a.
pleasure or delight.
b.
desire; inclination; wish.
–verb (used without object)
6.
to have intense sexual desire.
7.
to have a yearning or desire; have a strong or excessive craving (often fol. by for or after).

sex

http://dictionary. reference. com/browse/ sex
–verb (used with object)
6.
to ascertain the sex of, esp. of newly-hatched chicks.
—Verb phrase
7.
sex up, Informal.
a.
to arouse sexually: The only intent of that show was to sex up the audience.
b.
to increase the appeal of; to make more interesting, attractive, or exciting: We've decided to sex up the movie with some battle scenes.
—Idiom
8.
to have sex, to engage in sexual intercourse.


On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 6:51 AM, RAKTIM MUKHOPADHYAY <raktim2000@gmail. com> wrote:
 
I am fully in agreement with the analysis of Dr. Bhagabanprakash and Mr. Ram Puniyani regarding the matter. Our socalled God men� are rather polluting our society through unabated sex and several other crimes. Religion is their veil and in the name of celibacy they try to have unlimited earthly enjoyment. Dr. Bhagabanprakash has rightly said all our God and Goddesses were mostly married. Even Bhagban Ramchandra was not only married rather he faught a great war to perform his duty to his wife Sita Devi. Through my long association with some leading religious Organization I know how sex starved all these so called Godmen are.Now most of our laws has rule for exemption from different state responsibilities for this Religious Institutions. These should be done away with and strict state supervision and monitoring system should be imposed. In case of any criminal folly matter should be dealt with extreme strictness and serious action instead of exemption.

Raktim Mukhopadhyay

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Bhagaban Prakash <drbhagban@yahoo. com> wrote:
�
Relationship between man and woman is very natural and the institution of marriage is society's imaginative response to this need. And any religion or sect or Guru that preaches against it , indirectly� promotes sex scandals. Human history is full of such instances . It is the forced or motivated� vow of celebacy as a virtue that leads many of� its practitioners into unnatural living. and sex-starved behaviour.I really pity these fellows and their mentors. All the Gods of Hindu Trinity are married and almost all the saints and sages are married people leading disciplined sexual lives. And Lord Shiva, himself a Mahayogi and Father of yogic science, is twice married.I totally agree with Ram Punyani's analysis .I have elaborated this in my recent article 'Bhanda Babanka Bhola Chela' in my Bikalpa Biswa column in Sambad on 24th of this month. Of cource there are honourable exceptions wherein people genuinely inspired by higher life goals do not want to be shackled with burden of marriage.Their number is few and far between.
�
Dr Bhagbanprakash



From: Ram Puniyani <rpuniyani.2002@ gmail.com>
To: //india.ozg.in@yahoo.com
Sent: Sun, March 21, 2010 6:23:56 PM
Subject: National Forum - Swamis, Celibacy and Sex Scandals

�

Swamis, Celibacy and Sex Scandals

�

Ram Puniyani

�

Many a sex scandals related to Holy men have come to surface during last few weeks (March 2010). Its not that these are the first one�s to have been brought to social attention, such incidents have been coming to social notice time and over again. The present ones� about Swami Nityanand and Ichhchadhari Baba (Bhimanand) have highlighted the same in a very intense fashion as these scandals are very blatant.

�

One recalls in recent history many such cases have startled the media and society, the allegation of a foreign writer about Satya Sai Baba, then allegations against Gurmeet Ram Rahim, Santosh Madhavan, happenings of the Kamkoti Peetham Shakarachrya are quite well known. From other religious traditions, one recalls the recent book by Sister Jesme (Story of a Nun) and the news that the Roman Catholic Church has sacked a priest accused of pedophilia as large number of complaints were coming forth in Germany from people who were abused as children. At another level the RSS pracharak (RSS pracharaks are to remain bachelors for political reasons) Sanjay Joshi had also to give up his political responsibility when a CD related to his sexual exploits came to surface.

�

In all these cases the underlying mechanisms are different. In Catholic establishment, to remain unmarried is the norm and many cases have come to light, which have shamed the establishment. The Hindu God-men are all �stand alone� systems, not an organized Church. While comparing these may not be easy, what is common in these is that the organizations where members remain celibate to discharge their religiously or politically ordained duties, many of them do get tainted by the fall out of such acts.

�

What is different about the case of these God-men in particular is a deliberate misuse of their �spiritual attainments� to indulge in carnal pleasures, under the guise of spirituality, to the extent of running sex rackets in association with those in power. Here is the case of gross abuse of faith to the extent of deliberately setting up a situation to exploit the women devotees. The methods used by the swamis are diverse. This should come under a serious crime not only at legal but also at social level to ensure that such gross abuse of faith is brought under serious scanner.

�

As such the concept of celibacy in many a religious orders had a spiritual base in the noble idea of renunciations and transcending of the physical pleasures to attain the higher spiritual platform. The religious Gurus have been of different types as for as celibacy is concerned. In early India there were renouncers as well as those who led a family life. Patanjali stated �swa-ang jugupsa, parai asansargah�, meaning that with increasing spiritual insights, with mind achieving higher truth, apathy for physical body comes in. This is what is supposed to have made celibacy the path to sanyas. Celibacy, Brahmcharya has been highly respectable in sections of society.

�

After 8th century celibacy was taken to exalted levels into Hindu tradition by Shankara, while he was leading the battle of Hinduism against Buddhism. To attack Buddhism he adopted various concepts from Buddhism itself, e.g. the concept of renunciation of material wants, celibacy included. Today the idea of celibacy is prevalent mainly in Buddhism, sects of Hinduism and amongst Catholic priests. These three have base in religious traditions. For much different reasons, mainly political one�s, organization like RSS has also brought this in for its propagators.

�

Patanjali�s argument is repeated by modern God-man, Sri Sri Ravishaker. According to him as you go to higher levels, body becomes insignificant and interest in sex is reduced to nothing. There have been dissenting note from within the stable of God-men itself. The major such voice was that of Osho, Bhagwan Rajneesh. He argued that sex could be transcended only through experience; this was what he preached and penned down in his book, Sambhog se Samadhi (From Sex to Superconciousness) .��

�

These semi philosophical outpourings apart, the biological compulsions have always accompanied the celibates and the scandals have kept popping out from such institutions and individuals, telling us that these sexual escapades are a rule than an exception. It may be in the form of child abuse, same sex relationships to downright cunning methods indulged by God-men to trap the women on the pretext of their �spiritual� pursuits. Different philosophical sounding arguments are dished out to the unsuspecting laity. �

�

From last few decades these incidents are coming more to the surface as the phenomenon of God-men has mushroomed all around. This phenomenon is an accompaniment of the existential anxieties of the globalized world, the razor edge competitive era, where cut throat competition at work place, heightened consumerism and moving upward in the scale of financial earning is the only index of one�s success. The need for emotional succor is leading to the rise of the industry of God-men.

�

The God-men, belong to many categories, each having his-her own entrepreneurial skills. God-men put out their brand of spirituality, which apparently gives solace to the aggrieved middle and lower middle classes in particular amongst others. God-men have set up institutions which cater to vastly expanding market. Meera Nanda in her book, the �God Market� argues that there is an increased religiosity, collusion with the corporate World and the state. In India in particular, a subtle Hindusization is going on as such and this has been aided by the private sector. There is an active promotion of religious tourism. Higher education has been handed over to private sector, some of whom use religious trusts to run these institutions to impart �value education�. State has been generous in giving away land at highly subsidized rates to the Gurus and God-men.

�

One can also see the rise of religious Right here and in different countries during this period. RSS is having a field day in culturally Hinduizing the social space, and God-men are the major players in the game. One can say that these swamis of the ilk of Nityanad and Ichchhadhari are just the visible part of a larger phenomenon. These two cases also show the range of activities, from the spiritual fa�ade to downright sex racket.

�

The broader picture of the phenomenon is much more disturbing. Last three decades have been one of the most tragic periods of human history for different reasons. It is this period when the global political and social phenomenon has adopted the language of the religion. This language has created multiple problems. On one hand, one major religious community has been demonized, and on the other there is a big set back to the rational thinking and progressive values. When the language of religion is used with great aplomb, the reason is forced on the back-foot and the suppression of human rights takes the garb of religion. Since religion is accompanied by faith, which in turn can create hysteria, the latter ensures that blind religiosity and blind faith rule the roost. The beneficiaries of these arrangements are the entrenched social, economic powers.

�

Globally, US took on Russian forces by promoting the conservative versions of Islam, used the religious language to train Al Qaeda, and laced its ambitions for oil in the language of religion. Here in India those who were opposed to social transformation of caste and gender, used Ram Temple type issues, created mass hysteria around identity issues and have tried to push back the process of social transformation. The increased social presence of God-men is an accompaniment of this process. They have duel function. On one hand they aid in creating conservative values, refurbished caste and gender norms from Manusmiriti are propagated, and on the other they exploit this situation for their material enhancement, sexual exploitation included. Interestingly the God men who talk of renunciation and going to higher levels themselves are the biggest beneficiaries of material riches. Society has to learn the lessons from the sprawling wealth and sexual exploitation done by section of God-men and to understand as to what is really taking place in the garb of holy clothes is a mere misuse of faith for crass purposes. Nityanand and Icchadhari Baba is a sort of barometer of the phenomenon which has gripped our society. �

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Jharkhand Govt discriminating the poorest of the poor

-          out of the 34 lakh BPL families, only 23 lakh families are provided some relief, leaving the remaining 11 lakh families  to die of starvation & disease –

 

Stan Swamy

 

When you are not serious about doing what should be done, then appoint a Commission !   This is what the Indian govt (both at the centre and the states} is most adept at. Every ministry goes about appointing commission after another. They are given stipulated time within which to submit the report. Most often the commissions do not finish their work in time and ask for extensions which are  also liberally given. And finally when the report is given, it is given a quiet burial. The only beneficiaries are the members  of the commission (often retired judges & bureaucrats) and the assisting staff who get paid handsomely.

However, one must add some of the commissions do a proficient job and their findings & recommendations are worth implementing. Three such commissions were recently set up by the central govt & the supreme court:

 

The Arjun Sen Gupta Commission  appointed by the central govt to find out the extent of poverty in the country. It  submitted its report to the PM in 2006.  It came out with the startling revelation that 77%  ( 83.6 crore) of Indians lived on less than Rs. 20 per day. If the parameters are applied to Jharkhand, as much as 90% of the state's population would come under Rs. 20 per day. It was such a severe shock treatment to the ruling class and to the complacent economists that it was neatly put into cold storage and no one in govt circles speaks of it any more.

 

The Tendulkar Commission was appointed by the Planning Commission with the same task of assessing the extent of poverty. It was done with the hope that this commission would come out with some thing more consoling than the previous commission's findings. This commission submitted its report in 2009. The major finding was that 38% of Indians fall in BPL category, whereas the Planning Commission had been asserting that only 28% Indians are BPL. There was thus a 10 % difference between the govt and the commission assessment.

This commission also studied the BPL situation in the different states of the country. Jharkhand has 51% of its population in BPL category. This again was not pleasing to people in the corridors of power because it would mean the Planning Commission  would have to increase it allocation to this additional 10%.

 

The Wadhwa Commission was appointed by the Supreme Court. It submitted its report to the Scheduled Castes just a few weeks ago. It contains startling information about the functioning of the Public Distribution system (PDS): Entire PDS has collapsed, says SC panel

  Many other issues are -

         80% of domestic electricity consumed by 5% rich.

        50% of PDS  Kerosene, LPG, Foods diverted to retail.

        50% of Potash and 30% of Urea Diverted to Industries. 

        Private hospitals generate 85% of health care business.

        70% of education in private control.

        Rs. 5,00,000 crores Tax Dodges to Corporate.

        75% of bank credit to 1% population.

        80% of imported goods serve 5% population.

        Farmers get 20% to 50% of retail value.

        Traders Hoard & Control entire food chain.

  *     PDS system in Jharkhand is a glaring example of what the system ought not to         be !

The Wadhwa Commission, taking into consideration the gravity of the situation faced by the poor masses in the country, makes a significant recommendation to the SC, namely, all those earning less than Rs. 100 a day should be put in the BPL category.   

 (Source: Cgnet in Internet, 17/3/2010)

 

Now, the big question is 'where do the poor Jharkhandi masses stand?'

Of the three Commissions, the Arjun Sengupta Commission (with its assessment of 77% of Indians living on less than Rs. 20 a day) and the Wadhwa Commission (with its recommendation that all those earning less than Rs. 100 a day should be put in the BPL category) will prove absolutely devastating if they are applied to Jharkhand.  At least about 90% of Jharkhandis will come under BPL. Neither the central or state govt would be willing to admit such a reality.

A more moderate assessment by the Tendulkar Commission (51% of Jharkhandis are BPL) can be taken as the minimal assessment for Jharkhand govt to act on.

 Total population of Jharkhand :    2,70,00,000 persons (67,50,000 families with 4 members          

                                                                                                                                 per family) 

Tendulkar's assessment of 51% BPL:  No of families                                         34,42,500

Jharkhand govt's relief to BPL families: Antyodaya Ann Yoljna: 8,17,900 families

                                     Mukh Mantri Khadanya Suraksha Yojna:  14,76,100 families

                                                                                                       --------------------------

Total govt-helped :  No of families                                                                      23,94,000  

Balance BPL: unattended by govt:  No of  families                                           10,48,500

           

The problem with Jharkhand govt is that it does not know exactly how many BPL families there are in the state.  Nor has it worked out the criteria for ascertaining as to who would qualify to be considered BPL.

The hard fact is that poverty is deepening in rural Jharkhand. What they are able to realize from their agricultural  production may last for at most five to six months, and after that they become casual labourers or migrate to far away states.

In such a situation of increasing poverty, hunger, disease among the majority of the state population, the state govt has declared a war on this very people in the name of 'Operation Green Hunt' instead of meaningfully attending to their life-and-death issues. Tragic situation indeed.

 

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It is really disgraceful that even after 63 years of Independence of India, the basic essentials of modern life and amenities have not reached the poor and deprived and in particular tribal of the country. this is more so in the field of health, infant and maternity care resulting in high rate of infant and maternal mortality. I would like to site an example of my native village in the district of Godda in Jharkhand. I have written to the governor of Jhrarkhand, Prime minister of India and Mrs. Sonia Gandhi during Presidential rule in the state without any consequence.During my present visit to Ranchi I have have presented the problem personally to CM and the Health Minister and am anxiously waiting for some action.For details please read the attached.
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Over two-and-a-half million people worldwide, half of them in the US, are using word processors, creating slide-shows and doing their sums with the help from an online suite of software products built by Chennai-based technology start-up Zoho. In Bangalore, InMobi � a company that builds technology for mobile internet advertising � is helping global advertisers and publishers reach 175 million customers every month across Asia, Africa, the UK and the US.

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In Kolkata, FusionCharts, a graphic data visualisation tool created by start-up Infosoft Global, is used by 1,500 organisations across the globe, including the US government. Across India, a slew of such start-up companies are creating and selling proprietary products as they script a new saga in the country�s technology industry.

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Software products are designed to be used by multiple customers, either businesses or consumers. They typically carry intellectual property that creates higher value compared to software services for a limited clientele that forms the bulk of India�s $ 50-billion software industry.

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So, while it took Infosys Technologies 18 years to record its first $100 million in revenue, product start-ups such as InMobi expect to do so within five years. �In the next 18 months we will have revenues of $100 million,� said Naveen Tewari, CEO and founder, InMobi. The company, which was set up in 2007, has already built a direct sales force in seven cities across the world.

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It is this ability to scale into very large companies quickly that is making the technology product space attractive to both entrepreneurs and investors. �Of the 11 investments we have made since 2007, seven are in technology product companies,� said Sudhir Sethi, founder & CMD, IDG Ventures India, which has backed software product companies such as Perfint Healthcare, a medical devices start-up, and Apalya Technologies, which streams live television to mobile phones. Another IDG Ventures investee company, 3D Solid Compression, builds three-dimensional visualisation tools that can also be used on mobile phones.

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�In the next five years, $3-5 billion of private equity and venture capital will be invested in start-ups building technology products out of India,� said Mr Sethi. Technology entrepreneurs are riding on a host of advantages that the Indian market offers for product companies. These include the availability of technically-trained people and the low cost of selling technology products online.

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Zoho�s revenues of $50 million come from selling its suite of software that offers 21 applications to customers on the net. �We will have 20 million users over the next few years as online application suites overtake and become more powerful than desktop-based applications,� said Sridhar Vembu, founder & chief executive officer of Zoho, which competes with Microsoft and Google.

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The ability to test products in the domestic market, especially in areas such as mobile telephony and medical devices, has also worked well for start-ups such as Mumbai-based Webaroo Technologies and Perfint Healthcare. Webaroo�s SMSGupShup, a Twitter-like closed group messaging product for cellphone subscribers, has 27 million users in India. In three months, GupShup will be available to mobile users in nearly two dozen countries. By the end of 2010, Webaroo expects the launch of pay-to-use services such as email-like-SMS products and the global rollout to help it generate $10 million in revenues from $3 million now, said chief executive Beerud Sheth.



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